I used to ride the school bus with this girl. I think I even asked her out once, though memory is foggy and I might have only thought about asking her out and never actually did so. Now, of course, she’s TV’s Courtney Friel, host of the World Poker Tournament and MAXIM covergirl, and she wears heels to the pool.
Last night at about 12:30 AM, as I was struggling to woo myself into sleep, I happened to turn to Hannity and Colmes, and was aghast to find that Courtney Friel has become a Faux News personality! Her official site describes her as “reporter/fill-in anchor.”
At least in this particular debate (if one can refer to any segment of Hannity and Colmes as “debate”) Courtney seemed to be playing the liberal (read: rational) side, defending the rights of Rosy O’Donnell to both have, and voice, an independent opinion.
I bet H & C were shocked to find the bitch had an informed opinion. Now, she needs to visit O’Reilly.
That’s one hot little babe!!
Too bad she’s got that ugly bling hanging from her navel. Takes away from her beauty and makes her look stupid for doing it. That’s ok though I’d be willing to overlook it.
Smart move going to FOX news though. At least she’s with a credible news team. She could have went to the Clinton News Network (CNN), Nothing But Clinton (NBC) or the Clinton BS (CBS) stations.
Then she would have ZERO credibility.
What a gorgeous chick and just another of the stable of beauties that Fox employs. I look forward to seeing more of her on my favorite news channel.
She should have gone with a credible news station like CNN or MSNBC instead of a station that just reports their opinion. I like to turn the news on and be told whats going on in the world, not what they think should be going on.
Are you kidding???
CNN and MSNBC hasn’t an inch of credibility. I would say that they wouldn’t know the truth if it bit em but in all actuality they do. They CHOOSE to post nothing but leftist spin unless the truth supports their leftist opinions. (This doesn’t happen very often!!)
Fox news on the other hand reports ALL of the facts. It just seems like right wing spin because we’ve been inundated with leftist propaganda from the mainstream media for decades.
This is why FOX has more viewers on a nightly basis than CNN and MSNBC combined!!
Ron, you might as well try and defend a position that up is down or that the sky is green. As if it weren’t already well documented that Faux News is a mouthpiece for the Conservative Right Wing, the Republican Party and the Bush administration specifically, it’s abundantly obvious to anyone who watches for even a few minutes.
The “liberally biased media” is a myth and it always has been. Yes, there have been a few individuals who favored the left. Yes, there have been a precious few incidents that have been blown out of proportion. On the other hand there are continuously, meaning every day, examples of the media hiding facts from the public in order to protect the status quo. That’s a conservative position, my friend.
Fact is, the media is largely owned by corporations, who understand that their best opportunities to make money will come from Republican domination. The mainstream media is, always has been, and likely always will be, biased toward the right.
Faux News is not even a part of the MSM. They are a schism group, a radical mouthpiece spouting the dogma of a far right-wing culture that hates America and everything it stands for. But I won’t give you any crap for liking it, Ron; I don’t give retarded kids crap for eating their own snot either.
They ALL have there own agenda, you can be sure of that. So you may as well watch the channel with the hottest ones. In my opinion, FOX NEWS CHANNEL wins going away…….
Liberals claim to be tolerant and open minded, yet make statements such as “liberal (read: rational)” implying that conservative and libertarians are irrational? Pretty intolerant and closed minded to lump everyone who is not “one of you” into a group and label them ignorant or, even worse, evil.
I’m a Conservative Christian, and one of my best friends is an Atheist Liberal. If we used your world view we would have never become friends. It takes courage to rise above political stereotypes.
I like how libs say the media is a corp and in it to make money.
What about the New York Times. They ain’t making money and because the Punch and Pinch family own 96% of the voting shares, the remainder of the stock holders are powerless to change the editorial position that is causing the value of the company to retreat like the french. LA Times, Newsweek, CBS, etc all booming in a negative way. Imploding.
I do find it ironic how lib (rational) thought is so much more worthy than conservative.
Funny how the owner of the “alleged” RW Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, has given lots of money and has all but endorsed Shrillary for President.
I suppose lapdog Olberman is “objective”? Or Matthews?
Paula Zahn? Blitzer?
ANYONE outside of Fox???? Oh yea…..Beck.
Chris you are a classic leftist Nazi!!
Someone provides actual facts and because you don’t like it your leftist mentality drives you to insults and lies.
If Fox News is such a Right Wing mouth piece why is it that they beat all of the other competition combined?
Why is it that they always provide both side of the story?
You never see them just bring on a Republican without allowing a liberal to rebut them. The problem for liberals is that the truth doesn’t support their (your) lies.
Ron:
(1) The only source who puts Faux News at #1 for news ratings is Faux News. The real story is much more complicated and the best they could reasonably claim would be the #1 CABLE news source at certain times of day. None of which really matters of course, because popularity does not grant credibility – and to answer your question, they are as popular as they are because, like most Rupert Murdoch products they pander to the lowest common denominator.
Instead of reporting the news, they tell conservatives exactly what they want to hear – that it’s you who is right and the world who is wrong; that the United States is still the BESTEST country in the WHOLEWIDEWORLD and any country who does something differently (or person who suggests that WE should do something differently) is stupid and probably a terrorist; that the big business interests who have made it an overwhelming financial burden merely to exist (eat, sleep, and breathe) in the US are really good guys who are looking out for the best interests of you and me.
The real news these days is generally about “the chickens coming home to roost,” to use a folk expression; America reaping what it’s sown over the past 100 years or so. Watching the real news makes it just about impossible to deny that we’ve done a lot of things wrong and that our short-sighted trading of long-term consequences for short-term benefit is biting us in the ass. Faux News is popular because instead of news, they provide a big warm blanket of indignance that Americans can wrap themselves in, cozy in their self-assuredness while the world goes to shit around them.
(2) Boy you sure drank the Kool-Aid. The “liberals” who appear on Faux News are plants. They are all either phoneys or wimps, and that’s WHY Faux News has them on. Any liberal who actually makes a good point or refuses to back down when the conservative host shouts at them will never be invited again, and occasionally will have their mic cut in mid-sentence.
You want the truth about Faux News, there’s a relatively short documentary that lays out the indictment pretty clearly. “Outfoxed.” Now I know Robert Greenwald has been branded as a liberal and that you will therefore probably write off anything he says, no matter how firmly he grounds his arguments in fact, but have a look. I’m not going to try and tell you to start watching CNN or MSNBC, Ron – I don’t – but if you will stop believing the lies Faux News is feeding you, it’ll be a step in the right direction.
P.S. The Nazi thing? Priceless. Thanks.
Oh so now you believe that 9/11 is the fault of the U.S.?
Do you also think it was an inside job perpetrated by George Bush?
I guess the attack on the U.S.S. Cole was our fault too?
How about the Kobar Towers?
Or Maybe the first WTC bombing?
It must have been our fault when Saddam decided to invade Kuwait as well?
I’m sure we had it coming when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor?
GEEZ!!
As for cutting Mics the only time that’s every been done is when some liberal hack (much like yourself) was shouting down the other panelists and lying thus trying to monopolies the conversation. This is a classic liberal tactic. They know that there is an allotted amount of air time for a segment so they purposefully try to double talk through all of it so the only point made is theirs.
It’s actually quite funny to watch these liberal nut bags talk. They speak as fast as they can without pausing to guarantee that no one else gets to question the lies, accusation or innuendos.
I think that saying “the fault of” implies a direct causality for the specific action that oversimplifies the argument. Do I think the US was at fault for that action? No, just as any murderer is responsible for his own actions, the men who bombed the WTC are singularly responsible for that event.
However I think it’s undeniable that the US has taken a “fuck the world if it conflicts with our interests” approach to international politics that has fostered the kind of anti-American sentiment we now face.
I think Americans need to get out of this dream world where everything we do is right and just, and acknowledge that we as a Nation have done some pretty horrible things to the world. We need to let the rest of the world know that we acknowledge it, so that we can start being a good global citizen again.
Or, we can just go on being the big bully in the room, declaring that everything we do is right and if you have a problem with it, we’ll beat you up. The trouble with that approach is, eventually someone will hit us harder than we can take – and then where does that leave us?
I am loving this Chris/Ron debate, and would like to see it continue a bit.
But, Ron. For your readers’ sakes please use propper grammar! Or at least form your words into complete and intelligent sentences so that I can see your piss-poor arguments fall on their face more easily.
And the Nazi quote, that was classic, I agree.
Oh no I’m being confronted by Kneel & Bob!! The 69 twinks!!
So which one of you 2 ninnies are on top, or do you guys take turns between rim jobs?
So Chris,
America is a bad country and we are reaping what we sew? I guess saving Europe from Hitler was a bad thing. I guess to folks like yourself it is.
Defending ourselves from the Japanese?
I’m sure that you believe that we were wrong to support the Jews in defending themselves from terrorists?
How about something more recent? Was our part in the Bosnian conflict the wrong thing to do. Maybe we shouldn’t be providing Billions to feed the less fortunate in 3rd world countries.
Stan,
You critique me on “Propper Grammar”??
Maybe if you pulled your nose from Chris’s brownie button you’d learn to spell!!
You florist boys always find a way to bring laughter to my day!!
Thanks for the chuckles ladies!!
Ron, with each post you become more and more a right-wing stereotype…and yet even with your illustrative example people wonder why I refer to liberal thought as “rational.” As you become more radical I become less motivated to reply to you, which makes me sad… but I’ll force myself this time anyway.
First off please don’t do the straw man thing that so many Republicans do when rational people say that America is reaping the evil we’ve sewn. I point out how many bad things we’ve done, and you point the the good ones as if they negate each other. America is not a “good” or a “bad” country, Ron. Like people, countries have both good and bad natures, and are equally capable of good or evil. America has done a lot of very good things – like, for example, helping to topple the Nazi regime in Europe. FYI, the Europeans helped. America certainly tipped the balance in favor of the Allies, but this idea that we “single-handedly saved Europe” is silly and pretty offensive.
I’ll get back to WWII in a second here, but I want to point out the amusement I felt at the reference to Nazis as “terrorists.” You really ARE a Faux News disciple, Ron, to use “terrorist” as a synonym for “bad man.” The Nazis were a lot of terrible things – tyrants, genocidal maniacs, murderers, invaders, oppressors, war criminals, and more – but “terrorist” doesn’t really fit. A “terrorist” is someone who, rather than attack or rule through military might, attempts to inspire fear in order to disrupt the status quo. Terrorism is a tactic, a crime – not a state of existence.
That word “terrorist” is a favorite to use to demonize our enemies, and yet it has applied to us so often throughout our history. During the American Revolution, the US forces were terrorists. Remember the Boston Tea Party? Terrorism. We were also insurgents, and guerilla fighters. Dropping the atomic bomb on Japan was (debatably, but in my opinion) a terrorist tactic. “Shock and Awe?” Terrorism, plain and simple.
Come to think of it, what was it the Nazis did? They invaded and occupied other sovereign countries in the interest of spreading an unpopular ideology; they justified their actions among their own people through propaganda, lies and ‘patriotic’ rhetoric; they imprisoned those people they branded as enemies of the state and subjected them to war crimes and atrocities; they formed alliances with other Nations who did not truly share their ideology in order to finance an expensive war effort; and they kept secret many of the horrible atrocities they were committing so that the people of their own nation would continue to support their war effort. Geez, now who does THAT sound like???
FYI, I am not trying to say “America today is just like the Nazis,” Ron, so let me knock the legs out from under that high horse before you leap onto it at full gallop. I’m saying if you’re drawing the Nazi regime into things, there’s a lot more resemblance to the modern US than to Al Qaeda or Iraq or “the terrorists,” or “Muslims,” or whoever it is you think we are fighting against.
Now to get back to WWII, because it’s frequently a defense of the US and I think that’s interesting. WWII was certainly a good and just war and reason for military conflict. WWII also gave rise to what Eisenhower first termed the “military-industrial complex,” the economic force that has driven us into many conflicts since, and made war profitable for the men who choose to send us into battle. Many people (myself included) believe that this military-industrial complex, and its corporatization of war, is the motivator for many of the worst aspects of America today. Ike, whose Republican credentials I assume won’t be questioned, predicted that the military-industrial complex would ruin America. He was a pretty damn smart guy.
World War II was indeed a “good” action, viewed as a whole. Yet since then we have not entered a full-scale military conflict that could be labeled as “good.” Small-scale humanitarian actions like Bosnia and Somalia receive limited funding, poor public support, and very limited backing from politicians. Yet conflicts like Iraq, driven by hatred and racism and greed, receive full backing from the public and full funding from Congress. Geez, I wonder why the rest of the world wants to blow us up…
[yet even with your illustrative example people wonder why I refer to liberal thought as “rational.”]
I don’t wonder at all…it’s been indoctrinated into you. This is the way it is for all liberals. The leaders on the left have fed you their lies for so long it’s only natural for you to believe it.
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[First off please don’t do the straw man thing that so many Republicans do when rational people say that America is reaping the evil we’ve sewn. I point out how many bad things we’ve done, and you point the the good ones as if they negate each other.]
I have yet to hear someone with any rational say that we’re reaping what we’ve sewn.
The latest I can think of besides yourself would be Rev Wright and Louis Farrakhan. Neither of these could ever be considered even remotely rational.
Also you haven’t pointed out any specifics as to “Bad Things” that would give “Terrorists” a reason or desire to attack us.
I did point out the good things that we’ve done. Kudos for recognizing them as such.
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[America certainly tipped the balance in favor of the Allies, but this idea that we “single-handedly saved Europe” is silly and pretty offensive.]
Never said that we did this single handedly but without our help it would have never happened. Take France for example, they through their hands in the air the instant the Germans rolled into Paris. They weren’t willing to defend themselves without our help.
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[I’ll get back to WWII in a second here, but I want to point out the amusement I felt at the reference to Nazis as “terrorists.”]
I think you’re interpreting things that aren’t there. Show me where I compared Nazis to terrorists.
I have not called them terrorists but I’m sure you’ll agree that the Jews were pretty terrorized during that time in history.
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[Terrorism is a tactic, a crime - not a state of existence.]
It is actually both when considering the terrorists that we a currently dealing with. Their attacks in Iraq against the Iraqi people is meant to disrupt the status quo just as you say, it’s other purpose is to kill Americans. They have vowed to continue attacking us and Israel until all are did or have converted to Islam. I find that in it’s self to be a state of existence.
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[Dropping the atomic bomb on Japan was (debatably, but in my opinion) a terrorist tactic. “Shock and Awe?” Terrorism, plain and simple.]
I see it as the best of 2 choices!
Japan was not going to surrender even though they were defeated. There was a plan in place to invade Japan. All estimate put the death toll in the millions as far as Allied casualties and tens of millions in respect to Japanese casualties. This of course was dependent on how willing the civilians were to fight. The Japanese Govt. Had conducted a misinformation campaign filling their heads with all kinds of atrocities that the Americans would inflict on them if captured so there was a really good chance that they we’re going to fight to the death.
So we made a decision to drop the bomb instead. This saved millions of Allied lives and killed considerably less Japanese. 220,000 from the bombing and several thousands more from radiation exposer. Was it a horrible thing to do? Yes but it was better than the alternative.
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You make a direct comparison of the Nazis and the U.S but then you say that you’re not doing so.
Uh Ok??
I see the indoctrination at work.
You believe that our govt. conducted a campaign of misinformation and invaded and occupied other sovereign countries in the interest of spreading an unpopular ideology; they justified their actions among their own people through propaganda, lies and ‘patriotic’ rhetoric; they imprisoned those people they branded as enemies of the state and subjected them to war crimes and atrocities;
I assume that you’re referring to Iraq.
There is no comparison.
We did not go into Iraq for ideological reasons, there were no lies to the American public, we did not subject others to war crimes and atrocities. Abu Ghraib was an isolated incident.
Now Saddam on the other hand did gas his own people and executed hundreds of thousands for ethnic and ideological reasons.
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I’m sure you don’t intend to say that we’ve gone to war for profit? Yea military contractors have profited from supplying arms and other goods and services to our military but to think that wars were started so they can profit is absolutely ludicrous! You need to avoid the far left conspiracy theorist to maintain credibility.
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Small-scale humanitarian actions like Bosnia and Somalia receive limited funding, poor public support, and very limited backing from politicians.
Both were Clinton Era conflicts. I was in favor of both.
He did well in Bosnia but did the ran like a coward when things got rough in Somalia!
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[Yet conflicts like Iraq, driven by hatred and racism and greed, receive full backing from the public and full funding from Congress. Geez, I wonder why the rest of the world wants to blow us up…]
Please explain where Hatred, Racism or Greed was ever part of the equation when it came to invading Iraq?
There’s a lot of conspiracy theory nonsense claiming of such but no actual facts.
I’m not going to keep going on this, Ron. You’re so far out of touch with reality that there’s really no opportunity for me to even conceive of a reasonable argument with you. A quick illustration:
“We did not go into Iraq for ideological reasons, there were no lies to the American public, we did not subject others to war crimes and atrocities. Abu Ghraib was an isolated incident.”
You probably also believe that Iraq had ties with al Qaeda, and that there WERE WMD’s and “mobile biological weapon factories” in Iraq.
What I will leave you with is some reading material. I doubt very much that you will read it, but some other people might, and that’s good enough for me.
The Maginot Line – Wikipedia (the reason for the oft-cited “French surrender” in WWII)
Why Terrorists Hate America, by William Blum
(I want to point out, before Ron does, that William Blum is a self-identified socialist whose book “Rogue State” has been endorsed by Osama bin Laden himself – none of which invalidates Blum’s theories, and in fact would seem to show that he DOES in fact understand “why they hate us.”)
My own post regarding the atomic bombing of Japan
“Who Are the Terrorists” by Murray Rothbard
Now, Ron, I’ll allow you the last word, which I am sure you want. I’m not posting any further replies unless I absolutely cannot resist.
Well since you’re offering the last word I’ll take it.
I give you FACTS you post socialist propaganda.
You say I’m out of touch but you’re the one posting baseless dribble. You are so far out in left field you’ll never understand the realities of the real world.
I posed some simple questions and you failed miserably AGAIN to respond with anything considered to be rational.
Understand why they hate us. That’s easy we’re not True believers in the radical muslim ideology. Personally I could care less why but I do understand why. This just strengthens the reasoning why we should destroy all who are bent on destroying us. The hate filled propaganda that has been taught to many of these people from birth will never leave them. They are doomed souls ready to kill any non believer.
Their indoctrination is no different than yours. You’ve been taught to hate those don’t fall in line with the socialist movement. You’ll never learn the errors of your ways because it’s embedded into your mind.
Since you’ve made it obvious that you are incapable of learning I’ll end this lesson here.
Quite sad really… even the mentally retarded can be taught to care for themselves. I guess you’ll just be a ward of the state forever!!
Ok School’s out!!
Maybe next class I’ll find someone capable of learning.
she walks like a gimp. stalked her husband until he proposed and needs cue cards 24/7….
Ron,
You’re ugly. I don’t think that’s how an authentic Christian would act. You should love your enemies, even if that includes those you debate, and those who disagree with you. You had better take a good look into what is really frustrating you, and come to peace with things. Life is too short to go exploding at other people like that, and it weakens your argument.
“Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.” –Thomas Jefferson
After years and years of watching network news and CNN practically spouting the communist manifesto I’m happy to see something different.
But you really need to watch and read as much as you can from many sources to get even a glimpse of the real picture. Those who criticize the “other side” typically are using “facts” spoon fed to them by those with their own agenda.
Try waking up and thinking for yourself and not throwing out the same liberal/conservative talking point crap over and over again.
I find Fox news does indeed seem more conservative mostly because they aren’t as mouth-frothingly anti-American as other news channels. They also tend to be the most “lightweight” in terms of the hot babes, quickie stories, and “Entertainment News” style.
Take in as much as you can of everything. There is good and bad in most political views. Try be a little open minded and understand not everyone who disagrees with you is some kind of evil moron.
This discussion sure took a turn for the worst.
It is supposed to be about super babe Courtney Friel. And how much we all visually disrobe her when we see her on TV.
“Super babe?” I dunno about that…. She’s easy on the eyes, sure, but she’s hardly “super.” Mainly she’s just notable to me because I rode the school bus with her.
Hey Cris- If you US is as bad as you say it is, maybe you and your family should make a mass exodus to Saudi Arabia. This country is so bad it provided a life for you and your family (or no life if you so choose) so good, you couldn’t write it any better. Yeah, it’s not without its faults, but it is STILL THE MOST BLESSED PLACE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. Just ask John McCain. Or, if you could, my grandfather, Ronald Reagan, JFK, FDR, T.Roosevelt, Lincoln, George Washington and on and on and on……
Wrong, Rich. What I should do is stay here and try to fix this country until it is actually as good as it once was – and as good as the naiive go-alongs in this country still think it is.
It’s not the country that is bad. It’s the people who are running it. And those citizens who go along like good sheep, voting for and defending the bad guys who are harming the very people who defend them loudest and most vehemently.
Provided a life for me and my family? This country did not provide anything for me. My family provided for themselves, and for me, and I now provide for myself. The country does not provide anything to me – I provide to my country. That’s how the United States works.
This country is blessed, not by some fictional God, but by the Constitution, and by the people who have fought and died to uphold it and the ideals upon which it is based. Not “Judeo–Christian” ideals, as so many of the ignorant insist on believing, but on Enlightenment ideals of the rights of man to independence, liberty, property, and the pursuit of individual happiness.
This is what the fuckers in charge are destroying today, and using my name – and yours, Rich – to justify.
So run? Flee? Absolutely not. But I also will not take up a gun and go kill innocent people in the name of corporate profits and political points. I will do as Thomas Jefferson and the rest of the founding fathers intended. I will dissent – and I will do what I can to sow that dissent to as many other Americans as I can, until we enact that change and restore this country to what it is supposed to be, instead of what it has become.
did you go to methacton?
I DID say that I rode the school bus with Courtney, right??
Hey Chris, when you rode that school bus was it the long bus or the short bus? Left wing idiot moron. Is your last name Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda? How can you not see how liberal biased that most all media, i.e. Tv, newspapers, news magazines, fricken Congess. And let’s not forget most of our countries college professors. They just spew that liberal bull at a new generation every time a new one comes along. Its O.K. to be a feminist as long as your a liberal feminist. Its O.K. to be pro choice as long as you choose to kill your baby. Liberal give you the same choice that Henry Ford gave everybody, “Your new car can be any color you want as long as its black.”
Honestly guys, when talking to someone on the left, if they fail to at least acknowledge the majority of the media is bias, it’s not worth even debating. They are so delusional, and a political debate is useless as they will fail to recognize anything relevant (unless it aligns with their agenda). To say the NYT, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS, etc doesn’t lean to the left is almost as ridiculous as to say most talk radio doesn’t lean to the right.
Whenever I’m talking to a smelly liberal , if they fail to at least acknowledge they control most media and most of the education system, I cease to even debate any further. Otherwise I’m just wasting my time.
Sometime soon I’m going to write a post on the current fascination with “bias” in the media, but I don’t have time now so I’ll summarize.
First off, explain to me why you say those stations are liberally biased. One by one. Explain. Because I don’t think you can. Sure, you might have isolated examples that cover one or two outlets – “Rathergate” supposedly damns CBS, for instance – but I defy you to show me how PBS, of all stations, is liberally biased. So explain. In detail.
Secondly, what is “liberal bias” anyway? See, I watch the news. I see big fathead windbags like O’Reilly and Dobbs expounding on how they are “defenders of the American way” or some such nonsense, and those guys are hardcore conservatives. THAT is bias. The fact that a station doesn’t repeat Republican lies, and instead does actual research, does not make them biased, it makes them good journalists.
You need to look no further than MSNBC with Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow how anyone can watch these three and say they are not bias towards liberalism is out of touch. News anchors and journalist are supposed to report the news not interpret it.
Let me get this straight. Fox has a stable of conservative AND liberal reporters and you say they have a conservative bias? Give me a break.
Lots of liberal cool-aid drinkers on this blog. Hard to believe there are still people out there who don’t think there is a liberal bias in the media.
Open your eyes, get your hands off my wallet and start reading more than just the headlines.
Good grief…
Oh, and Courtney is yet another smokin’ Fox hottie.
Chris, you’re either gay or Courtney used to kick your ass on the bus. She is more than just easy on the eyes dude.
There is nothing more gay than accusing (hint, snicker, hee hee!) someone of being homosexually inclined, just because logic and reason are too difficult to deal with. (There is PLENTY of Kool-Aid to go around). The terms “liberal” and “conservative” are meaningless nowadays! —-Bread and circuses to distract us from paying attention to the realities that ALL mainstream media fail to report. With “libs vs. cons” nobody watches the profiteers that are robbing and ruining this country. Anyone remember the term “divide and conquer”? If so, then we should grow up, as PATRIOTS, and quit falling for it.?! …….ok, ENOUGH!…hell, I’m only here by mistake, as I was Googling up a new hottie on MSNBC named Courtney Reagan! She Does resemble your Courtney quite a bit!———anyway, anyone who thinks they really slammed a zinger at someone by calling them a queer should realize the innermost personal fears they are exposing!
Thanks Gary… though I do think it’s especially funny when the person in question IS queer, but that’s another post.
I would disagree that “liberal and conservative are meaningless,” but I agree with your general point, and I think in the sense that most people use the terms (especially interchangeably with “democrat and republican,” which are NOT synonymous in any sense) is meaningless.
BTW, I looked up your Courtney Reagan, and she reminds me of Helen Hunt. To each his own, I suppose.